tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post8020400936049064387..comments2023-07-13T06:25:45.427-04:00Comments on JUDEOPHOBE WATCH: Chris Womak, Sniveling CowardUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-28365358230555424162007-05-22T22:36:00.000-04:002007-05-22T22:36:00.000-04:00There are many, Jews included, Sarkozy included, w...There are many, Jews included, Sarkozy included, who do not agree with 'your' definition of a Jew.<BR/><BR/>And its not a lack of education that leads to certain positions I take but education and honesty: I could quite easily take a position on matters that cannot be proved, but assume a certain amount of faith, and also matters that will never be proved one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>I know you don't believe it, but I don't hate anyone; I see too many coincidences to be just that; it is beyond the scope of ordinary people and in the hands of the few, Zionists in general, who care as little for your people as they do for mine; they feed off your insecurities and collective defensiveness- they hide behind it. <BR/><BR/>And it only serves to make others believe in a wider conspiracy, hence the popularity of the 'protocols.'The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-8661545942515360952007-05-22T16:44:00.000-04:002007-05-22T16:44:00.000-04:00Sarkozy is most certainly Jewish and most certainl...Sarkozy is most certainly Jewish and most certainly considers himself to be Jewish, and is in fact from a staunchly Zionist family background, as this Jewish publication tell us:<BR/><BR/>"Of Jewish-Spanish ancestry, Cecilia’s foreign roots match those of Sarkozy, whose father is a Hungarian immigrant and his mother of Greek Jewish origin."<BR/><BR/>http://www.ejpress.org/article/16507<BR/><BR/>"In an interview Nicolas Sarkozy gave in 2004, he expressed an extraordinary understanding of the plight of the Jewish people for a home:<BR/><BR/>“Should I remind you the visceral attachment of every Jew to Israel, as a second mother homeland? There is nothing outrageous about it. Every Jew carries within him a fear passed down through generations, and he knows that if one day he will not feel safe in his country, there will always be a place that would welcome him. And this is Israel.” <BR/><BR/>http://ejpress.org/article/16491<BR/><BR/>"Sarkozy’s sympathy and understanding is most probably a product of his upbringing; it is well known that Sarkozy’s mother was born to the Mallah family, one of the oldest Jewish families of Salonika, Greece. Additionally, many may be surprised to learn that his yet-to-be-revealed family history involves a true and fascinating story of leadership, heroism and survival. It remains to be seen whether his personal history will affect his foreign policy and France’s role in the Middle East conflict. <BR/><BR/>In the 15th century, the Mallah family (in Hebrew: messenger or angel) escaped the Spanish Inquisition to Provence, France and moved about one hundred years later to Salonika. In Greece, several family members became prominent Zionist leaders, active in the local and national political, economic, social and cultural life. To this day many Mallahs are still active Zionists around the world. <BR/><BR/>Sarkozy’s grandfather, Aron Mallah, nicknamed Benkio, was born in 1890. Beniko’s uncle Moshe was a well-known Rabbi and a devoted Zionist..."<BR/><BR/>http://ejpress.org/article/16491<BR/><BR/><BR/>Not just Jewish, but from a staunch Zionist background too.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-90923229724297402372007-05-20T00:23:00.000-04:002007-05-20T00:23:00.000-04:00Does Israel then call that a conversion?Good quest...<EM>Does Israel then call that a conversion?</EM><BR/><BR/>Good question. I would guess "yes".BHChhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178467606233596591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-88232105576273604832007-05-19T18:06:00.000-04:002007-05-19T18:06:00.000-04:00BEAJ,Thanks. However- This is NOT how Israel defi...BEAJ,<BR/><BR/>Thanks. However<BR/><BR/>- This is NOT how Israel defines Jewishness for the right of return. The Law of Return applies if any of your grandparents is Jewish. It also excluded anyone who converts to another religion.<BR/><BR/>- For such a raving atheist ... Why are you telling me all this stuff about reform and reconstructionist conversions? Who cares?BHChhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178467606233596591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-50388802027332589912007-05-18T10:34:00.000-04:002007-05-18T10:34:00.000-04:00A story about you got linked to by Rense! I'm gree...A story about you got linked to by Rense! I'm green with envy...Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3043439929415022934.post-89243110332318461852007-05-17T20:21:00.000-04:002007-05-17T20:21:00.000-04:00Shlemazl, if I went berserk and converted to Catho...Shlemazl, if I went berserk and converted to Catholicism tomorrow, I would consider myself to be a Catholic Jew. Maybe you wouldn't. I don't go for the religious definition but the ethnic one that gets one into Israel.<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm" REL="nofollow">Who is a Jew?<BR/></A><BR/>A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.<BR/><BR/>It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism?<BR/><BR/>This has been established since the earliest days of Judaism. In the Torah, you will see many references to "the strangers who dwell among you" or "righteous proselytes" or "righteous strangers." These are various classifications of non-Jews who lived among Jews, adopting some or all of the beliefs and practices of Judaism without going through the formal process of conversion and becoming Jews. Once a person has converted to Judaism, he is not referred to by any special term; he is as much a Jew as anyone born Jewish.<BR/><BR/>Although all Jewish movements agree on these general principles, there are occasional disputes as to whether a particular individual is a Jew. Most of these disputes fall into one of two categories.<BR/><BR/>First, traditional Judaism maintains that a person is a Jew if his mother is a Jew, regardless of who his father is. The liberal movements, on the other hand, consider a person to be Jewish if either of his parents was Jewish and the child was raised Jewish. Thus, if the child of a Jewish father and a Christian mother is raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Reform movement, but not according to the Orthodox movement. On the other hand, if the child of a Christian father and a Jewish mother is not raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Orthodox movement, but not according to the Reform movement! The matter becomes even more complicated, because the status of that children's children also comes into question.<BR/><BR/>Second, the more traditional movements do not always acknowledge the validity of conversions by the more liberal movements. The more modern movements do not always follow the procedures required by the more traditional movements, thereby invalidating the conversion. In addition, Orthodoxy does not accept the authority of Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist rabbis to perform conversions, and the Conservative movement has debated whether to accept the authority of Reform rabbis. <BR/>**************************<BR/>If Sarkozy's mother's mother was a Jew who did not convert until after she had Sarkozy's mother, Sarkozy's mother would be a Jew, and any of her children would be Jewish......to me, anyway. But the fact is that Sarkozy's maternal grandma was a non Jew from birth, so the argument is moot.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.com