Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Chris Womak, Sniveling Coward

Just a real quick update. As expected and the reason for this blog, Chris Wombat proved the truth is his enemy.
I left 4 comments on his blog, and he only posted one, where I said that if Sarkozy's mother was in fact a Jew, then Sarkozy is an ethnic Jew.
Doing further research, I found that his maternal grandmother was a Christian. Her last name was Bouvier, and she was the reason his grandfather converted.
Sarkozy is not a Jew, which means that the whole article he posted on his blog by Shmurtis Maynard is pointless bullshit.
Funny thing, is Maynard accuses me of lying, because I supposedly knew Sarkozy is a Jew. He is not. Neither by religion or ethnicity.
These guys are paranoid nut bags, and the best is that Womak the wimpy boy, wasn't man enough to post my comments.
There are comments on his blog that accuse me of saying things I didn't say by someone named "anonymous." He posted those lies about me, no problem.

These white trash retards are deceptive, lying fools.

I love the fact that their irrational hatred and paranoia has put them in a no win situation. They say just about anyone in control has Jooooish blood. This implies that they study the Talmud and the Protocols ROFLMAO. I can't help it, I'm laughing as I write this. This way they can state that Joooos are in control, since everyone in control has a bit of Jooooish blood. If they are right, then half the Western world are Joooos. But on the other hand, they say THE TIDE IS TURNING, yet Joooos in their eyes, like Sarkozy get elected in France of all places. Yep, THE TIDE IS TURNING. These idiots really need to get a life.

Oh, and the Maynard story got linked at Rense.

Rense is a place moronic imbeciles go to find out what kind of tin foil hat is hot on the market.

Womak, is a sniveling coward and a disgrace to humanity. Hopefully he won't breed, and if he does, I feel very sorry for his children.

Oh, and since Womak is a proven deceiver and loser, I will not link to his blog from here. No point even reading the lies he knowingly allows on his blog, while he censors the truth.

10 comments:

shlemazl said...

By the way, you were wrong when you said that if his mother were Jewish than he would be Jewish too.

You know that personally I do not adhere to this religious definition going back thousands of years to the time of matriarchate. Strange choise for an atheist like yourself. I prefer a simpler definition that anyone identifying himself as a Jew is one.

However, even if you were to go for the religious definition, mother's ethnicity isn't the only precondition. Anyone whose mother or who himself converted stops being Jewish. Therefore you cannot have a Jewish Catholic, whatever his mother was by ethnicity.

BEAJ said...

Shlemazl, if I went berserk and converted to Catholicism tomorrow, I would consider myself to be a Catholic Jew. Maybe you wouldn't. I don't go for the religious definition but the ethnic one that gets one into Israel.


Who is a Jew?

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism?

This has been established since the earliest days of Judaism. In the Torah, you will see many references to "the strangers who dwell among you" or "righteous proselytes" or "righteous strangers." These are various classifications of non-Jews who lived among Jews, adopting some or all of the beliefs and practices of Judaism without going through the formal process of conversion and becoming Jews. Once a person has converted to Judaism, he is not referred to by any special term; he is as much a Jew as anyone born Jewish.

Although all Jewish movements agree on these general principles, there are occasional disputes as to whether a particular individual is a Jew. Most of these disputes fall into one of two categories.

First, traditional Judaism maintains that a person is a Jew if his mother is a Jew, regardless of who his father is. The liberal movements, on the other hand, consider a person to be Jewish if either of his parents was Jewish and the child was raised Jewish. Thus, if the child of a Jewish father and a Christian mother is raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Reform movement, but not according to the Orthodox movement. On the other hand, if the child of a Christian father and a Jewish mother is not raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Orthodox movement, but not according to the Reform movement! The matter becomes even more complicated, because the status of that children's children also comes into question.

Second, the more traditional movements do not always acknowledge the validity of conversions by the more liberal movements. The more modern movements do not always follow the procedures required by the more traditional movements, thereby invalidating the conversion. In addition, Orthodoxy does not accept the authority of Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist rabbis to perform conversions, and the Conservative movement has debated whether to accept the authority of Reform rabbis.
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If Sarkozy's mother's mother was a Jew who did not convert until after she had Sarkozy's mother, Sarkozy's mother would be a Jew, and any of her children would be Jewish......to me, anyway. But the fact is that Sarkozy's maternal grandma was a non Jew from birth, so the argument is moot.

Gert said...

A story about you got linked to by Rense! I'm green with envy...

shlemazl said...

BEAJ,

Thanks. However

- This is NOT how Israel defines Jewishness for the right of return. The Law of Return applies if any of your grandparents is Jewish. It also excluded anyone who converts to another religion.

- For such a raving atheist ... Why are you telling me all this stuff about reform and reconstructionist conversions? Who cares?

BEAJ said...

Shlemazl, I just copied the entire section of Who is a Jew from Judaism 101.
You are right about Israel, but lets be fair, who does that grandparent thingy apply to other than Jews?
If your paternal grandpa was a Jew who married a Catholic and both your maternal grandparents were Catholic, then I guess you would be allowed to live in Israel if and only if, you are an atheist or converted to Judaism. But the thing is, most Christians have Baptisms at very young ages. Does Israel then call that a conversion?

Bottom line, Sarkozy is not considered a Jew by ethnicity or by religion, except by Joooo paranoid freaks.

shlemazl said...

Does Israel then call that a conversion?

Good question. I would guess "yes".

The Sentinel said...

Sarkozy is most certainly Jewish and most certainly considers himself to be Jewish, and is in fact from a staunchly Zionist family background, as this Jewish publication tell us:

"Of Jewish-Spanish ancestry, Cecilia’s foreign roots match those of Sarkozy, whose father is a Hungarian immigrant and his mother of Greek Jewish origin."

http://www.ejpress.org/article/16507

"In an interview Nicolas Sarkozy gave in 2004, he expressed an extraordinary understanding of the plight of the Jewish people for a home:

“Should I remind you the visceral attachment of every Jew to Israel, as a second mother homeland? There is nothing outrageous about it. Every Jew carries within him a fear passed down through generations, and he knows that if one day he will not feel safe in his country, there will always be a place that would welcome him. And this is Israel.”

http://ejpress.org/article/16491

"Sarkozy’s sympathy and understanding is most probably a product of his upbringing; it is well known that Sarkozy’s mother was born to the Mallah family, one of the oldest Jewish families of Salonika, Greece. Additionally, many may be surprised to learn that his yet-to-be-revealed family history involves a true and fascinating story of leadership, heroism and survival. It remains to be seen whether his personal history will affect his foreign policy and France’s role in the Middle East conflict.

In the 15th century, the Mallah family (in Hebrew: messenger or angel) escaped the Spanish Inquisition to Provence, France and moved about one hundred years later to Salonika. In Greece, several family members became prominent Zionist leaders, active in the local and national political, economic, social and cultural life. To this day many Mallahs are still active Zionists around the world.

Sarkozy’s grandfather, Aron Mallah, nicknamed Benkio, was born in 1890. Beniko’s uncle Moshe was a well-known Rabbi and a devoted Zionist..."

http://ejpress.org/article/16491


Not just Jewish, but from a staunch Zionist background too.

BEAJ said...

Sentinel, I know all about Sarkozy's support for Jew's, Israel and his ancestry. But nothing of what you just pointed out makes Sarkozy a Jew.

Read the Who Is A Jew definition I linked in these comments.

Sarkozy's maternal grandfather was a Jew, but he married a born Catholic which means that Sarkozy's mother is not considered to be a Jew by either ethnicity or religion as Sarkozy's father became a Catholic but more importantly, Sarkozy with a non Jewish mother, was not raised a religious Jew, but a religious Catholic.

Are you wilfully ignorant? I think so.

How is Sarkozy a Jew? By what definition is he a Jew?

Yes, Hitler would have considered him a Jew, but he doesn't fall within the 13 or 14 million people on the planet who are considered to be Jews.

If Sarkozy is a Jew, by your definition, then there are a heck of a lot more Jews out there. No wonder Jews control everything, when you consider Kerry and Sarkozy to be Jews.

You really need an education. You're I don't know if evolution is true or if the Protocols are real or fake, pretty much reveals who you are. You just need a good Jooooish conspiracy and you cream your panties.

The Sentinel said...

There are many, Jews included, Sarkozy included, who do not agree with 'your' definition of a Jew.

And its not a lack of education that leads to certain positions I take but education and honesty: I could quite easily take a position on matters that cannot be proved, but assume a certain amount of faith, and also matters that will never be proved one way or the other.

I know you don't believe it, but I don't hate anyone; I see too many coincidences to be just that; it is beyond the scope of ordinary people and in the hands of the few, Zionists in general, who care as little for your people as they do for mine; they feed off your insecurities and collective defensiveness- they hide behind it.

And it only serves to make others believe in a wider conspiracy, hence the popularity of the 'protocols.'

BEAJ said...

Sentinel, Sarkozy does not consider himself to be a Jew. He knows he has Jewish ancestry though.

If you tried to understand science a little better, you would realize that evolution is not about faith at all.

I don't know who you mean by Zionist. I'm a Zionist. I am for a Jewish governed state so any Jew anywhere can escape anti-semitism if it rears its ugly head anywhere in the world.

Who exactly are these Zionists you speak of and what is their goal?

A high percentage of Muslims don't believe Muslims were behind 9/11, this causes them to look for other people to blame. That is why they see a forgery like the Protocols and love it.

You basically take simple things that happen and try to find a way to blame the Jews. And there is always a way to tie Jews to anything from stubbing your toe to getting fired from a job. If you want to believe it is Zionists, you'll find a really stupid way to blame them.

Jews have always been scapegoats throughout history because they were put into a position to make it on their own. When regimes change or economies go bad, the easiest person to blame and the easiest houses and businesses to steal are those of a successful minority.

The trick is finding a way to get the majority to back you to hate them and get rid of them. Hitler succeeded.